Re: [isabelle] Troubleshooting a nondeterministic SMT failure

Hi Brandon,

The most likely problem is that the thread launching the SMT solver is not started fast enough. Set the timeout to infinity with ``declare [[smt_timeout=0]]`` should do the trick (this is the default value in Isabelle2021-1-RC3 anyway).


Le jeu. 18 nov. 2021 à 12:01, Brandon Bohrer <bjbohrer at> a écrit :
Hi all,

Short version: I am getting failures in the "smt" method, nondeterministically on the released version of an AFP article (Poincare-Bendixson); what troubleshooting steps are recommended next?

Since I have already taken some troubleshooting steps, the rest of my email describes what I have tried already, to help speed up troubleshooting. Note that I have one machine with the problem and one without it, which may help.

Failing command (for example):
$ isabelle build -d <path-to-afp>/thys  -b Poincare_Bendixson

Isabelle version: Tried 2019 and 2021 with matching AFP versions. No change.

Machine & OS information:
I have tested this on two machines, call them machine W (where the proof works) and machine B (where it's broken). Both run Windows 10. Both use the built-in Windows antivirus and I am prevented from turning it off completely, but I have added exclusions for my Isabelle and AFP directories. Also turned off search indexing of file contents.

The first difference between the machines that comes to mind: machine W is newer and faster; it has both an SSD and an HDD. However, I moved Isabelle (including .isabelle) and the AFP to my HDD, and the issue persisted. I still wonder whether Windows is using the SSD without my knowing, and racing.

Solvers: I tried Z3, CVC4, and VeriT. No change.

Timing and nondeterminism:
It is definitely nondeterministic. If I rerun an offending line through the jEdit UI, it usually works on a second or third try. Whether it succeeds or fails, it always returns quickly (e.g. 0.2 seconds for one of them). So it is not a timeout issue.

SMT tracing information:
I enabled the smt_trace option and noticed something: When "smt" fails, the "SMT: Result:" message doesn't have any, well, results after it, but when "smt" succeeds, there is lots of trace info. Is this expected behavior or is it a clue about what's going wrong? I can rerun and post the whole trace if needed.

Thanks for any advice you can provide!

Brandon Bohrer
Assistant Professor of Computer Science
Worcester Polytechnic Institute

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